>> that is our show for tonight, we will see you again tomorrow and now it is time for the las word with lawrence o'donnell good evening, lawrence >> good evening, alex. we have both of them here tonight. representatives justin jones and representative justi pearson. >> amazing >> together for the first time on this program. we are really eager to hear from both of them we have really looking forward to it. of course, we have to cover th news of the day before we ge to that, that legal news of th dominion case and where that stands, what happens next fo fox. because it -- it's no over >> yeah, well, the to justin's on a day like today, when we are once again talking about gun violence in a differen context, but there is a lot am sure they will have to sa about that and the inheren

race questions that ar involved >> yeah. that is why they ar here. and we're going to giv them plenty of time. >> wonderful. i will b watching >> thank you alex. thank you >> good evening. >> the most important lega news of the day is actuall from georgia, we are filing by district attorney fani willi in a case that of the target of her criminal investigatio of donald trump may be switching sides and cooperatin with the district attorney i the possible future prosecutio of donald trump. that could begin with donald trump being indicted in georgi in the next two weeks. when a new grand jury will b convened in georgia that wil be empowered to hand dow criminal indictments we will have more on that in a moment the loudest legal news of th day, obviously, was th surrender heard around the world. rupert murdoch surrendered today. rupert murdoch surrendered lik you've never seen him surrende before rupert murdoch decided to give

up and we know it had to b rupert murdoch's decisio because no one else is empowered to make any real decisions about how the fo propaganda channel doe business, including how th channel decides to handle lies on television. only rupert murdoch could have made the decision today to sto trying to defend his network coverage of the last presidential elections and the dominion voting machines use in that election rupert murdoch won't come up today so deeply terrified of what was going to happen i court today that he decided he had to stop it stop it before the jury heard word, he had to stop it before a dominion lawyer said a singl

word in that courtroom this morning, judge eric - davis gave the jury some brief preliminary instructions about taking notes during the tria and not consuming any news reports about the trial, and a few other standard items, with an instruction for the jur before the case got underway including the promise from the judge that that jury would get out of work every day at 4:3 pm they got out a little earlie than that today when ruper murdoch decided to pay dominio voting systems 787 point $ million to settle the case, to stop the case. the settlement discussions began when the judge recess fo lunch today, telling everyon to be back in the courtroom at 1:30 pm. when 1:30 pm arrived, no one came back to the courtroom because the lawyers had passed the word to the judge that the were working on a settlement

and that can happen at any point in a civil trial, so the judge certainly wasn't surprised by that. and it is standard to simply suspend while lawyers ar working on a settlement. the settlement rupert murdoc paid for today could have been purchased at that price before dominion ever put rupert murdoch under oath in th deposition and which rupert murdoch highl incriminated himself as a -- conspirator in the defamatio of the dominion voting systems if rupert murdoch had been smart about this case and if h had been half smart about this case, which he wasn't, he coul have settled this case befor tucker carlson was forced to g under oath in the deposition and forced to hand over all of his text messages and emails t lawyers about how intensely an

passionately he hates donald trump. if rupert murdoch had no completely botched the legal strategy in this case he could have purchased a settlemen without dominion ever reading single text message of anyon who worked at fox or eve giving up a single word of under oath testimony fro anyone at fox. that never had to happen but rupert murdoch and the fox lawyers conducted the single worst defense of a defamatio case that this country has eve seen the reality of how powerful case is against fox finall landed on the 92 year old, slo reacting rupert murdoch this morning, just this morning and then he did everything h possibly could to make sur that no one ever heard the

opening statement against fo that stephen shackleford was going to give today at 1:30 pm as the very first words hear when the trial got underway. >> as i was preparing today to give the opening that we never got to give, i was reminded of the hail that the dominion employees went through and continue to go through to this day. money is accountability. and we got that today from fox but we are not done yet. >> dominion is not done yet. dominion still has defamatio cases against -- the my pillow guy, rud giuliani, trump lawyer sydne powell, newsmax and o a oh a man. if the evidence against them i those cases is asked wrong a the evidence against fox the they as well will be crushed b dominion legally

and forced to pay judgments or settlements that will probably bankrupt them. steven shackleford is right. money is accountability. that is how the civil justic system works in that system, and in tha system alone, money it i accountability that is how lawsuits work. lawsuits are about money the outcome of a lawsuit is no expressed with words lik guilty or not guilty those words never enter lawsuit. it is expressed in amounts o money. and a settlement like this one is the equivalent of a guilt plea in a criminal case. fox knew from the top down from the top down fox knew that is what dominion said in brief file in the case and dominion proved that they proved that in their case and they proved to the judge i the case that what fox sai about dominion and allowed t be said about dominion was

false. the judge accepted a undisputed fact that fox was providing a forum for rudy giuliani and other trump supporters to lie to fox viewers about dominion votin machines dominion got rupert murdoch to admit under oath that he could have stopped the lying, but he chose not to that was a choice he made. dominion has proved that tucke carlson was lying to his audience about how he felt about donald trump dominion proved all of tha before going to trial. and that is the way it usually works in civil cases because each side and a lawsui gets the right to subpoena witnesses and force them t testify under oath before th trial. and the trial is usually just rerun of what happened in th depositions, what was said i the depositions, and what wa

revealed in the document obtained by subpoena in the pr trial discovery process. dominion has been able to make public all of that materia already. and so, in a trial, we wer likely to learn nothing ne that we did not already know and that is common in civi trials rupert murdoch and the fox lawyer's strategy was so harmful to fox because i forced the revelation of all o that material before trial because dominion was allowed t make that material public in response to hopeless defense filings filed in court b rupert murdoch's lawyers who were outsmarted every day of this case by the dominio lawyers. rupert murdoch lost today, and he lost in this case lon before today as soon as he took it fa enough to enable dominion to

subpoena rupert murdoch. a smart person running tha company never would have allowed that to happen if rupert murdoch were smarter a smarter businessman, he neve would have allowed himself t be subpoenaed in this case and today's settlement shows h didn't have to allow that to happen we now know that rupert murdoc was sitting there the whol time with 787 and a half million dollars in his pocket, ready to hand over to dominion and rupert murdoch foolishly stupidly decided to do that. at the worst possible moment he did it after dominion's lawyers were able to revea everything to the public dominion's lawyers discovere the truth through the subpoena

power that the lawsuit granted too them, and rupert murdoch could have stopped tha subpoena power in the firs week by doing what he did today, but rupert murdoch wasn't smar enough to do that. and so we now luckily no, no thanks to dominion's smart lawyering, that rupert murdoch 's very stupid lawyering we now know that fox knew from the top down, fox knew we have the proof. we have the text messages. we have the emails we have the under oath testimony. from all of them we had that already. we didn't need the trial for that and for the first time today at one of the lower viewership hours on the network, a fo audience was allowed to hear about the dominion lawsuit for the very first time from fox's so-called media reporter howar

kurtz. >> this had to do with the ide that dominion voting machine for president trump and hi allies made this case on fox and elsewhere, or someho stealing votes from donald trump and flipping them to joe biden. that is obviously false. those who are conspiracy theories but the case would hav revolved around whether fox ha don't do diligence, whether it was reckless, weather it was simply reporting, as the network contends, an extremely newsworthy matter, then argued by the president of the united states himself >> that's obviously false. those are conspiracy theories. boy, that sounded really eas to say especially at high speed lik that but no one at fox had th brains are the courage to sa that about the lies that donal trump and really rudy giuliani were telling about dominio voting systems that is obviously false. those were conspiracy theories that is what we were saying on this network every night but no one at fox until today,

was allowed by rupert murdoc to say that is obviously false and it took nearly two yea lawsuit for someone at fox t say, that is obviously false about something that was obviously false. think about the stupidity it took for rupert murdoch to get that company into that position, the stupidity of the way ruper murdoch managed the situatio with dominion while it was happening. it is a unique level o stupidity among corporat executives and executive involved in any way with any form of the news business. fox could have invited rud giuliani on every show to sa anything he wanted to and neve have been sued by dominion

if the tucker carlson and sean hannity types had not in any way endorsed what rudy giulian said if they had just ended the interviews with lines like well, if that's true, that's really bad they could not have been suit. that is how easy it was to never be sued and push tha rudy giuliani and trump stor very heart but rupert murdoch and the people he pays well to speak for him on television whenever never for a second allowed their audiences to suspect tha rudy giuliani just might be pathological liar who is lying about dominion voting systems. it was so easy - so, so easy for rupert murdoch to keep pushing the trump lies and have his network push th trump allies without ever bein sued, and rupert murdoch was

too stupid to find the way t do that. and guide the people he pays into the safe zone of managing their legal risk, which is incredibly easy to do. in situations like this. civil lawsuits never sen anyone to jail, civil lawsuits are settled with money sometimes it is an amount of money that hurts tough to pay. sometimes it is an amount of money that does not hurt t have to pay. but civil lawsuits don't lea to the kind of dramatic, emotionally rewarding outcomes that can happen at the sound o the words guilty or not guilty dramatically delivered by jury in a criminal case, which is one of the reasons all of the lawyer shows you have been watching on television since lawyer shows were invented are about criminal cases and not

civil cases. perry mason never had a single civil case so if you are at home tonigh thinking you'd be so muc happier if robert murdaugh had been dragged into testify unde oh in a delaware courtroom please understand that there would be no cameras in tha courtroom, there would be no audio recordings of rupert murdoch's voice under oath i the courtroom, and his testimony would read basically when we finally got our hand on it in a trial transcript, pretty much identical to wha it already says in the deposition transcript that w already have and so, you're imagined leve of satisfaction in forcing the manager of this whole falsehoo pushed about dominion on fox rupert murdoch, forcing him to testify about everything tha

fox did is, it's an exaggerate sense, i think, of what wa possible in that courtroom because it was not likely to b any more revealing then what i already revealed in reading th deposition transcript of ruper murdoch that exists thanks t the brilliance of the dominion lawyers who beat rupert murdoc and rupert murdoch's lawyers every step of the way, strategically and legally an forced them today into complet and utter surrender. the truth one today. very big day for the truth - the truth one big. you don't get these days ver often. the truth one big and rupert murdoch lost rupert murdoch lost big. rupert murdoch stupidl cornered himself and his company and the people who wor

for him into this surrende that they all participated i today. the other, and indeed long term, much more important legal news of the day could be what w will be discussing in a moment it is a filing in court toda in fulton county, georgia, b district attorney fani willis, asking a judge to prevent on of the defense lawyers for som of the fake electors, fake trump electors in georgia, fro continuing to represent thos clients, because the distric attorney says those client were never told by that lawyer that they were offered immunit by the district attorney this is a very, very serious form of malpractice by a criminal defense lawyer, i true and the filing indicates tha district attorney fani willis' office has already had som form of conversation with some

of those fake electors, in which some of those clients of that lawyer implicate othe clients of that lawyer onc they actually are allowed chance by the district attorne to tell some of -- at least some of what they kno but the case now, this could indicate tha some of the fake electors, all of whom were told months ago that they are targets of the criminal investigation, that some of them might b cooperating tonight with tha criminal investigation o donald trump leading off our discussion tonight's glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor an host of the justice manage podcast, and charles blow, a columnist for the new york times. they are both msnbc analysts glenn, let me begin with thi surrender that we saw today by rupert murdoch, an strategically, when you look a civil live litigation, glenn

the whole idea of one of the settlements is, you settle a case because information tha would come out as a result o the case proceeding would be very damaging to you so, you settle it before the information comes out not at the end when it has all come out. >> yeah, lawrence, this is really a lose lose for fox and the thing is, it looks like fo is losing has only just begun. because this is going to put considerable wind in the sales of the smartmatic suit that ha been brought against fox remember, dominion was suing for 1. 6 billion they ended up with more than three quarters of a billio dollars. smartmatic is suing for more than two billion dollars, an they will be buoyed in today's settlement considerably. i wouldn't consider this any kind of legal precedent for th smartmatic suit, but it is certainly atmospheri precedent.

and then the other loss that may be coming fox's way is the derivative lawsuit that ha been brought by shareholders against officers and executive of the fox corporation for failing to put safeguards in place to stop this very thin from happening so, the losing for fox has perhaps only just begun. >> yeah, you could topple th corporate leadership of company just by the way they handled the lawsuit. obviously, before getting to the lawsuit, rupert murdoch wa part of creating the evidenc base that created the lawsuit, but the way they handled the lawsuit was the most disastrou corporate management of lawsuit i've ever seen charles blow, now that the rea truth about fox is out there that we all know, it is al documented it, in all unde testimony under oath, we hav seen the text messages in th

emails - no one expects anything to actually change at fox, becaus this has been working for them >> you are right and i think the thing that scared fox the most was not th money. because they ponytail up the money, or at least half of i -- what scared them the most wa having rupert and the hosts of fox put on a stand with a judg and under penalty of perjury being forced to tell the truth and being grilled about it that was scarier to fox than anything else. and i think that that is the biggest thing that moves forward from this case into th other cases, is that the other people suing fox now understan their biggest fear >> yeah. >> and if they can push all th way to a trial, if they also have the option of calling

those hosts before a judge they are likely to get a similar cowed fox news >> yeah, glenn, that's such an important point that charles has just made. you rarely, as a litigant, get to watch a plaintive withi almost identical case, go firs and win big-time and watch exactly where the defendan cracks as they did in this cas today. so they have really got thei roadmap laid out for them very clearly, i think i want to go to the fani willi development. glenn -- criminal defense lawyer no informing clients that those clients, who are targets, they are targets of crimina investigation, that th district attorney is intereste in offers of immunity to those clients. those offers are made in exchange for full testimon that could easily implicat others in a possible conspiracy, that is a gravely seriou situation that you rarely see,

and so fani willis's motion is giving us some clues about wha we might be seeing unfolding next month as the new gran jury meets to actually issue - indictments. >> yeah, lawrence, this motion to disqualify one of these attorneys -- ms. debro who represents ten o these fake electors, reall sets out some dramatically ethical transition transgressions by ms. debro. -- and boy, if a defense attorney ever has an obligation t communicate something fully to a client, it's the kind of benefit represented by immunity it means you may get off scot-free. you may have to testify, but you will not be charged if you are granted immunity and the allegation is, some of these electors represented b

ms. the debro, said they wer never told that immunity was being offered by fani willis and then the other significant transgression is that ms. debr represents a whole group o fake electors -- and the disqualification set out the dea willis and her tea had conversations with some of these fake electors on april 12th and april 14th. and these fake electors said some of the other fake elector represented by ms. debro committed crimes that we had nothing to do with that is a direct conflict that mandates that ms. debrow get off these cases and that's the motion that dea willis has filed. and i have a hard time seein how that motion is not granted >> yeah, so, a couple of thing that we learned -- when is that the investigation is ongoing because this is happening, basically, right now, and fani willis really rushe into court with this motio

pretty much as soon as they go this information from thos people, that they were not tol about the immunity offer this is a really big deal that we will be following as this case continues glenn kirschner and charle blow, thank you both very much for starting off our conversations tonight. >> thank you lawrence. >> coming up, there is a new demand for an investigation of supreme court justice clarence thomas, senator sheldo whitehouse will join us next with the freestyle libre 2 system, know your glucose level and where it's headed. no fingersticks needed. manage your diabetes with more confidence. freestyle libre 2. try it for free at freestylelibre.us (wheezing)

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judiciary committee dick durbi is calling for investigation o supreme court justice clarence thomas >> we have called on chief justice roberts to accept th responsibility of the court. as chief justice of the united states supreme court, he has t understand the clarenc thomas's conduct is absolutely unacceptable from an ethical basis. to restore the integrity and reputation of the court, the have to do something and an investigation involve by a change in approach and on ethics >> joining us now is senator sheldon whitehouse, a member o the senate judiciary committee and the chairman of the senate budget committee senator whitehouse, well can the senate judiciary committee do >> well, we are going to b have a hearing and keep th pressure on the court to do th responsible thing just a chairman durbin just said.

the conduct of the justices, with regard to their ethic obligations, is on the administrative side of the court, not the adjudicativ side of the court. so, first of all, congress has the ability to inquire and legislate in that space. and second of all, the chief justice has the responsibility to oversee that space if h wishes, through the work of th judicial conference. which he chairs -- so the tools are there to do a proper investigation the chief justice has simply been unwilling to do that. and i think continued pressure on him to do that is the right way to proceed at this juncture >> the most severe thing, think we have discovered in th revelations about justic thomas, is the sale of the property in georgia that his mother still lives in, that he owned, a piece of. because that, as we last discussed, it is a matter of law.

there is law that says you must, you must disclose that >> yes >> and in the new york times today, in his column, jamell bouie points out penalties for either - report the required informatio includes fines of as much as $71,000 per omission, an potentially a criminal referral and he goes on to mention case that was actually proceeded criminally on this kind of basis of not reporting legally required information this is not a rule, this is law. >> yeah. and i would argue that the jet travel is the same, becaus there is not a reasonabl reading of the terms launching food and entertainment tha includes transportation by private jet. so i think both are areas in which the refusal or failure o

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16 year old ralph yarl was o in police custody this afternoon in kansas city missouri he's been charged with two felonies, assault in the first degree and criminal action after shooting ralph yarl in the head in the right arm. he faces a maximum sentence in the case of life in prison ralph yarl was shot at about 1 pm last thursday when he wen to pick up his younger twi brothers from a friends hous and made the mistake o knocking on the wrong door ralph yarl was released from the hospital on sunday and i now at home in the care of his mother, who is a nurse >> the residual effect of that injury is going to stay with him for quite awhile he is home, but i want t remind everyone that ralph's home because he is surrounde by a team of medical

professionals. i am a nurse for almost 20 years, his aunt is a physica therapist, his uncle is medical professional that is why he is home so let's put that into perspective. you can see that he is jus replaying the situation over and over again, and that jus doesn't stop my tears either because when you see your ki just sits there and constantly the tears are just rolling fro both sides of his eyes, ther is nothing you can say to him. >> today president biden said, last night a chance to cal ralph yarl and his family. no parent should have to worry that their kid will be sho after winning the wron doorbell we've got to keep up the fight against gun violence and ralph, we will see you i the oval once you feel better. today was the first day of school at the -- covenant school where 39 yea

old children and three adult were murdered in the schoo shooting that led to the protest but then lied to the republicans in the tennessee house representatives expellin justin jones and justin j. pearson, who have since been reinstated as tennessee stat representatives. joining us now are state representatives justin jones and justin j. pearson. thank you both very much for joining us together here for the first time and representative jones, want to begin with you, becaus we could lead into you introduction possibly any da of the week. but this week, next week, with a new story, a new story of gu violence, a new story of, in the case of ralph yarl, an unprovoked attack. obviously from some crazed sense of fear that people have

pushed on them by fox an places like that, that anyon coming to your, to ring your doorbell might be dangerou enough that you are going to have to shoot. and then the environment of th schools that you have been issues of schools that you hav been living with very vividl since the shooting there what are you thinking tonigh as we continue to have more of these stories to tell? what are you thinking tonigh about where you need to try to go legislatively >> yes well, thank you so much fo having us on lawrence. you know, i think whether it i at a school in nashville or child knocking on the wron door trying to pick up their siblings and being shot, i think this is an issue of th proliferation of guns in thi nation that we are dealing with you know, this weekend we had mass shooting in alabama, an kentucky, so this is an issu that is happening daily.

and what we must look at is wh is it that we are proliferatin guns in our communities? that are putting our childre at risk. so we have to look at common sense gun legislation that wil rain in this proliferation that will have universal recor background checks and red flag laws and also try to shift our cultural culture of violence t one in which our children ca feel safe. this proliferation of guns i not bringing safety to our community, it is bringin terror and anxiety, it i bringing - fear for parents today, in nashville, we ha thousands, over 7000 peopl lining the streets, from the children's hospital here i nashville to the state capital parents from covenant, parents saying we don't need want ou kids to -- grow up in a world like this calling on my colleagues in th legislature to act and i really believe tha tennessee is setting a model for the nation in coming acros party lines, across racial lines, across socioeconomi lines, calling for common sens gun laws to make all of ou children feel safer. that is what this is about those are the solutions that people are asking for and that we as lawmakers are, have moral obligation to act on

>> there were so many painfu things to hear in what ralph's mother just said but we just heard her say. but that last line, she said there is nothing you can say t him, she looks at her sons still crying from this experience, and she says there is nothing you can say to him. representative pearson, i can' think of anything i coul possibly say to him. what would you say to ralph if you had the chance >> yeah. i would say i am sorry sorry that this happened i could only take on apologeti tone, just as we did today, in talking with the mother and th loved ones of children a covenant school. i truly am sorry that this has happened, that this is happening to you and also committing myself, an our body to push it, to do justice in such a time lik

this because the reality is, what happened to ralph, for mos black parents, one of thei worst nightmares, that race is the reason that that person, that 84-year-old man, was in fear of a young black man at the door and that stoking of fear o young black children, of black people, that is happening in our legislatures that is happening in the narratives that people put out about young people and youth a dangerous, as violent. and that is seeping into our society and the way that peopl think, and the way that they act, and the way that they operate. and by having a proliferatio of weapons and guns and weapon of war with people who reall shouldn't have them, they don' have to have permits to have them in the first place in the state of tennessee, we are seeing these shootings eithe ending peoples lives o changing their lives and the reality is -

well - elders in our church did, yo have to cry tears -- in order for god to wipe the and that is the type o strength that we are going t need for him - and from him in this moment. and all of us need to be praying for ralph's recovery and for all other people in ou community who are experiencing gun violence and for legislators like myself, representative jones, those wh are in positions of power, t do something, we have a mora obligation and responsibilit to do something and passin just laws that can help to end this epidemic of gun violence, which is why i will be using the 15 bills that i have and will be proposing tomorrow 15 pieces of legislation are all related -- to gun reform and the reductio of gun violence in our communities. legislators and people of powe can do something, have a obligation responsibility to d something so the situation tha

ralph is in, the situation tha our mothers -- and mothers at covenant an fathers and siblings are in, that doesn't have to be the wa that our lives continue. >> representative jones, i wan to ask you the same question that question of ralph's mothe saying there is nothing you ca say to him, it is your job, yo ran for that office, you too that oath, and you know that part of your job is going to b finding what to say to the nex row ralph yarl - what would you say to ralp yarl tonight >> yeah. it reminds me of what got me i this movement ten years ag when i was 17, when trayvo martin was shot and killed b george zimmerman, and hi murderer was let off on thes heinous stand-your-ground laws that our here about giving

sanctions to gun violence, t vigilante gun violence in this nation and it compelled me to get involved in this movement, because i did not want to se that grief, that trauma, continually in my community. so what i would say to ralph i that you deserve so much better and as the youngest blac lawmaker here in tennessee, would say to ralph yarl that you deserve to live in a world where, as a young black boy, are allowed to exist without the fear that some racists wil see you as a threat just for existing, and knocking on th wrong door, ringing the wron doorbell, that you deserve a world in which you can live to your fullest capacity and that these issues of ending thi proliferation and of guns an systemic racism are intertwine and there are parallel issue that we must address

simultaneously but to ralph yarl, i will sa that the same message i woul want to say to my own children i want you to live in a worl where you are seen as th beautiful manifestation of wha you are, of a light, of hope of joy in this world, and not threat just because of racialized narratives that people have been fed to live i fear of. so as a lawmaker we must tak this grief, we must take thi pain and transform into policy action i introduced - my first day back, i drafted and have introduced, along wit one of my senate companions, senator oliver, the protec kids not guns act. so i will say to ralph yarl -- you are a young man who we should have protected, and the system has failed to protect you, and our politics have failed to protect, and you deserve better than that and that no gun is worth you life

no bullet, no warship -- worship and that we are sendin them strength and encouragemen from tennessee, whether from here or there, you know, w stand together, and that we ar going to do this, and that until this attack against young black man is treated as abhorrent attack as on a white man, we believe freedom cannot rest until it comes. >> representative pearson, i want to ask you about optimism about how to look forward. and when i think of martin luther king in memphis on th last day of his life, in you state of tennessee, he was there just to try to get the sanitation workers of memphi the right to unionize. that was the immediate mission and he didn't think that was

going to change the world if they got to unionize he didn't think there weren' going to continue to be seriou problems in memphis, he knew that he would, if he lived would be in this fight for a very long time, and that there would be steps forward and steps back, and he somehow, he somehow through it all, when i seemed there was no reason t be optimistic, he somehow held onto optimism. we see in washington a roadblock set up by republican house of representatives on an legislation you up against incredibly difficult republica roadblocks in the state of tennessee. what do you say to people ou there who are losing their sense of optimism or hope, for whatever it is they need to tr to believe that there is a better place to get to in th future >> don't give up hope.

because it is the greatest too that we have in our fight fo justice. the reality is the oppressio that exists in america, in our society, in our state, in ou cities, it does continue t persist. but every time there i oppression, there's always people, these angeli dissenters, i believe it's called, that always persever and push past that pain to create - and to live into this ne vision the reality is, the issues tha dr. king was fighting stil persist. today, we had sanitation workers in memphis on strike against republican services. 55 years since doctor king's assassination. today, we're still dealing wit the issues of military-ism, an exploitative capitalism, we're dealing with a denial of healt care and access to opportunities. we are up against a lot of goliath's, if you will, in our society. but what is encouraging, the reason to continue to have hop

is because the folks like d r -- he said, i want to do somethin about housing. it is noah, who is five year old, and he's a student at covenant and today, he painted rainbows on the legislative plaza at th rally and gathering of peopl to end gun violence there. there is reason to have hope because there is and there are people who are persevering pas the spin and passed th tragedies that we ar experiencing, to still fight for the future we believe in and you have folks like myself representative jones representative johnson, people who are doing it inside of institutions, when it is the masses of people outside o here who gather and who sa even though it feels like i' alone, even though in my community, in my county, in my school, there are not othe people who believe exactly wha i believe, i realize that i am not alone in this fight, because i'm a part of movement and the difference, th difference between us and thos who have allegiances to --

gun lobbyists and corporations is that our movement is rooted in love. it's rooted in things that are immaterial and yet so potent and so powerful. and if we cling to those things, we will be able to win >> representative justin jones you are a legislator do you have a legislativ agenda you are going to try to push >> yes, definitely as i said, we have already filed and submitted the protec kids, not guns act, which is a comprehensive piece of legislation actually based off of massachusetts state law which has some the best gu laws in the nation, and it's the second lowest for gu violence, deaths, an shootings. and this includes universa background checks, safe storage, a ban on assault weapons lik ar-15s this includes red flag laws. i mean, these are things tha have worked in other state that we are trying to implemen

here in tennessee, and that we must continue to put pressur on my colleagues in th legislation to act on, because here in tennessee, our legislative leadership on th republican side is rushing t end the session this week. and it would be an abdicatio -- it would be a dereliction of hours duty as lawmakers to leave this session and not tak action for comprehensive gun legislation. and so, our call is for th speaker of the house to not en session until we take action on guns. and if we do and session, it will be on the governor to cal a special session, call us right back to nashville, to do the peoples work so, that's gonna be a continue push, it is the call for tha special session of the republican leadership rushes u out of here so, that's what we're going to be fighting for, and hopefully it can be eight model solution >> the tennessee two, tennesse representatives justin jones and justin pearson, i cannot thank you enough for joining u tonight. it is so important to have bot of you here, both of you her

as representatives in the hous of representatives i tennessee. thank you both very, very much for joining us tonight >> thank you >> thank you so much we'll keep fighting. >> thank you we'll be right back. ke my morning ride. will it help lower my glucose? with the freestyle libre 2 system you can know where your glucose level is and where it's headed without fingersticks. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. ask your doctor about the freestyle libre 2 system. now widely covered by medicare for patients managing diabetes with insulin. visit freestylelibre.us to learn more. hey bud. wow. what's all this? hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪

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and representative justi pearson get tonight's last word the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now >> tonight, the stunning and t one of the biggest media lawsuits in decades. fox news and dominion reaching a settlement just hours afte -- was sworn in but foxes legal battles are no over yet then, why some are questioning florida governor ron desanti is really a. conservative. and then an alarming and disturbing uptick in gun violence, highlighted by two separate incidents how ringing the wrong doorbell and turning into the wrong doorway ended in tragedy as the